[00:00:03] Speaker A: Hey there. Hey. I'm so excited to be back. Guess what? Coaching, Cocktails and Conversations is back. We are at season six, you guys, and it's been a minute since we went live, but today, I'm so excited to be here with you. Welcome to Coaching, Cocktails and Conversations with Lolita E. Walker, the podcast that coaches you up while meeting you exactly where you are. Grab your water, tea, or something stronger and allow this podcast to help you feel the power in your pause. Come on in and join the conversation. Let's go.
So if this is your first time here, you can go back and listen to all the previous five seasons, and they have been so super juicy. You can ask Alexa to play Coaching Cocktails and Conversations with Lolita E. Walker. You can find me at all of your streaming platforms. And guess what? On Facebook, on LinkedIn, and on YouTube. Today, the topic is how your body is speaking and realigning to you. I have an amazing guest with me, and I won't even. I won't even tell you about her yet. I won't even tell you about her yet because I don't want you to get that excited and not listen to what I'm going to tell you. Now. What I will say is that we are living in a world that is full of chaos. Y'all know that this is our world. It just feels like a storm. And I know that to be true because I feel it, too. There's chaos, there's distraction, there's fear, there's anxiety, there's stress. There's this swirl around us. And I listen to it and I look at it like there's these unpredictable winds, there's this tornado that is just kind of swarming around you. And sometimes when there's. Every single moment, there's a shift in a headline. Every single moment, there's a shift in some type of leadership, a personal struggle we're going to, a national struggle that we're feeling a moment of doubt, disoriented and feeling like we're in these different directions and unsure of what way we want to go. So today, this was so important to me to bring an expert in to talk about recalibrating and what your body is saying when it's speaking to you, how you realign and get it right, how you simply pause. I'm going to bring Jen Ox on, and she is going to help us to. To talk about this compass, talk about your leadership within, talk about how we are going to leverage the power of gestures. Ooh. Have you ever done that before? How we are gonna realign ourselves and then listen to our body speaking and realigning to who it is that we are. I am bringing on Jen. Hey, Jen.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Hi.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: How are you? How are you? Welcome back to coaching, cocktails and conversations.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: I'm so glad to be here.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: Well, I am glad to have you, too. You know, when I. When I think about what's happening in the world, when I think about the chaos and the fear and the stress that different people are feeling, I think about you. And when we had you here first, we had you talking about the power of gestures. Okay. We had you here talking about the power of listening to your body and realigning it. So I wanted to bring you in. So first, before we get into the juiciness of the conversation, tell us who you are.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for, you know, having me here listening to you open up this beautiful conversation. It's just. It's such an important one to have. So I am so thrilled to be here and talk about how we listen to our body and why it's so important. What do I do? So I'm Jen Axe, and I'm a leadership coach. And I look at leadership from within. I think that my belief is that we really can't fully, authentically, honestly, with a ton of integrity, lead fully unless we are connected to our truth, unless we are listening to our body. Because a lot of times, we subscribe to how other people lead. And it's great to have teachers, and it's great to feel inspired, but at the end of the day, we all have such a beautiful, unique voice that the world needs to hear. We have our own approach to leadership. It's unique. It's ours. It comes from our story. So we need to really tune in to our sensations, to our emotions, to feel into what it is that we believe and what we want in the world and then leading from that place. So that's my frame of leadership. And there's a lot of layers to that, but that's really the crux of it. And at the heart and center is teaching people how to listen to their body so that they can lead from within.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Oh, I love that. Okay, so let's talk about leading from within. Let's talk about that. Where would you start? You know, let's say that there's somebody listening in right now, and they are like, I am just everywhere. I don't even know how to recenter. You know, when I think about that, I liken it to our body being our guiding system. It being this Compass and leading us north. I think about, you know, the north, the south, the east, the west, like all of these different places that we could go. So let's say that I come to you and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm just overwhelmed. Where will we start?
[00:05:19] Speaker B: We start with going quiet. You know, we start with really finding a place where we can sit in our silence so that we can listen to whatever it is. And if we can't really hear it, we can feel it. We can absolutely feel it. And a lot of times people think that they have to have all of the words, how do I feel? And put everything into action with this, you know, with your mind.
What I like to do is really drop into the body and allow your emotions and your sensations to really do the talking and to pay attention and, and, and, and hear it in however it is for you. So what I would say, the first thing would be to really drop in and I would take people into a quiet meditation. If they're not with me, they can do it on their own. You know, really just sitting and placing a hand on the heart and belly and closing your eyes and just sitting in silence for a moment just to give yourself that opportunity to let all of these emotions that we're all experiencing, all you talked about the chaos, right? There's so much chaos surrounding us right now. So to just kind of let that sit, settle, and feel into what it is that we're experiencing, you'd be surprised. Just the pause that you mentioned, just the quiet can raise so much. And I want to say this that sometimes, many times, it's scary to do that because all of a sudden we're really connected to our truth and we're quiet and we listen and we pay attention, then we really need to do the work. We're hearing our angst, we're hearing our fears, we're hearing our insecurities, we're hearing all the things in our body, and then we have to address it. And I think people hesitate or resist getting quiet because they will hear the truth. And the truth is hard to face sometimes.
[00:07:14] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. I think the truth with ourselves, the truth with what's happening around us, the truth with the decisions that we make, the ramifications. So I love that you said that. You know, when I think about, you know, north, south, east and west, I think about the north. And I wonder if you would agree with me on that being. When you're at your best, when you're your most centered, when you're your most aligned, you Know, one of the things that I love, if you, if you give people like, what does that body cue feel like? Is it a sense of a flow and ease of confidence? Like, how would you calibrate those moments?
[00:07:52] Speaker B: Yeah, that's so interesting. I have so many thoughts as you're talking about that. And I think what I'm going to start with is this, the north. To me, the parallel to your north is my phase, my third phase, which is elevated. And I'll go back now and explain. So I have a three phase approach to feeling fully aligned to your body, feeling connected to your truth, standing in your power, being able to lead from within authentically, honestly, all those beautiful things. It starts with, it's three E's. And the framework is embodied, empowered and elevated. And I'm going to get to your North Star in a second. Embodied is really that phase where we address that we're out of alignment. We're out of alignment for so many reasons right now. There's a lot of fear, there's a lot of chaos in the world. We are freaking out, you know, and it's making our internal system wacky and out of alignment. Right. So the embodied phase is, why am I out of alignment? How can I get back into alignment? Why is this important? And then, and then using those tools to get there, once we are aligned, once we are reconnected. And I'm not saying that it's a solution for the rest of your life because we're constantly in and out of alignment. That's just the human experience. But once we get there, because we can, even if it's just for a day, even if it's for a week or a year or two or three, we, we, we flex that muscle so we understand what it feels like to be in alignment. And once we're there, we can move into an empowered phase. Okay, I am now empowered. I'm aligned. I know what I want. I know how I feel. I'm speaking my truth. I'm standing in my power. And now I can take action towards living this life of feeling empowered. And then once we're empowered, we can live elevated. Elevated is beyond yourself. I'm embodied. Now. I feel empowered. And now I'm at my North Star, I can live elevated. I can give back. This is about service. This is beyond me. And because you're now leading from that internal compass that we're talking about, that internal truth, so we can elevate authentically. And we know that there's a lot of elevation in the world that's not authentic. And I mean, we know one major one that's leading our entire world right now, right? That's what we. This process gets you into alignment with your truth and your power. Also, by the way, in elevated, it's not just about service. It's about I've arrived and I am not going to allow all of these external noise, all of these external pressures affect me as much. I'm not going to say go away, but it's as much. So that's that North Star to me, and I wanted to explain that. And how do you arrive and how do you know? I think when you come into that place where you are in alignment, I like that.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: You know, as you were talking, I was thinking about these directions and I love your three Es. You talked about embodying power and, you know, being elevated and this notion of, you know, how do you get to your North Star? And I heard you really talking about that in South, I think directionally is kind of where you sit in that overwhelm, that exhaustion, that disconnection. And, you know, when I think about the body cues or your body, how your body is feeling, because I want to put some words around this, it might be, you know, like this heaviness or this tightness or this sluggish energy. And I'll tell you that I've been there. I've been there. Whether it was a change that I'm going through in my life, whether it is thinking about how executive orders are going to impact me, whether it is. I remember not too long ago, I mean, it's literally just January, just past January, and I feel like it's been a whole 365 days, but I remember there were days, probably like a week. I just literally didn't do anything. It was my most unproductive, but I needed it. My body needed permission to simply pause and breathe and engage. And I didn't think so. I want, I would love for you to talk to us about, about that. You know, what do you do? Even through gesturing or what do you do? Introduce that piece to us?
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Oh, so much of what you said, I, I, I just love and appreciate and is so incredibly important when you talk about those emotions that you have felt and experienced in your life and all of us right now, whether it's angst, whether it's nerves, whether it's fear, whatever it is, the gesture piece is essential because so I have this practice for those of you that don't know. It's called the power of gesture. It's an embodiment Practice. It's really a body setting practice. There's a lot of mindset out there. Mindset practices that's like getting your, you know, using affirmations and journaling and really being, like, cerebral about it, which is amazing. Mindset practices work. This is a body set practice where we come into alignment and get in touch with our body. We set our body so that we can move forward. So how do we do that? So I have this practice with the hands. There's a lot of brain tissue specifically connected to our hands that is designed to help us communicate, process, and express ourselves. So we are supposed to use our hands to help us do all of that. So I'm bringing the attention to our hands to help us, to help us achieve that. So when we're feeling those things, like you were experiencing the angst, the nerves, we allow our hands to embody that emotion. So we're. We're almost creating something tangible out of something that is not. Our emotions are energy. Right. So bringing our hands into that process, allowing us to embody the nerves, embody the fear, whatever it is, with our hands, gives us something to kind of move and shift so we're able to relax and release that energy and allow other energy to come in. Otherwise, many times when we have that angst, that panic, that disrupt in our bodies, we don't know what to do with it. And, yes, movement. We can run, we can dance, we do yoga. Right. All of that really helps. This is just another way to do it. So we're taking that energy and we're lifting it up and we're calling attention directly to it so we can really spend time with that one specific emotion and then help transmute it into something else that feels a little bit lighter and a little bit less heavy. Right?
[00:14:51] Speaker A: No, that's so good. I remember when you were a facilitator, an expert facilitator at my women's Weekend renewal retreat, and how this powerful gesturing really became kind of emotionally and spiritually driven. And it really, you know, came from the top of your head to the bottom of your feet and all of your extremities on getting to know who you are.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: And I even remember back when you did we. We were on Zoom and you did a video with me, and it was very powerful.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Incredible. One of the things that I'm thinking about as we're talking about the power of gesture is, you know, we tend to. I said this, like, right when we started at the top of our conversation. We tend to be afraid of our own truth, of our emotions. Because they're scary, right? It's. It's hard. I've been there, too.
I've lived with angst in my stomach, heart palpitations, heat in my head, all of the things. And when we slow down and we invite those sensations and those emotions into the conversation, what we're really doing is we're just learning about ourselves at this stage in life. It's not about looking back and reliving those emotions necessarily. It's really about getting to know who we are and. And understanding and leaning in with compassion as opposed to, oh, my God, I have this anxiety in my stomach and I just want it to go away. It's more the. The power of gesture allows you to spend time almost like a child inside of you. I look at our emotions as individual beings and so to say, okay, anxiety, I'm going to hold you, I'm going to feel you. I'm going to lean in and ask why and tell you. And then I'm going to bring in another part of me, a different emotion that says, you're going to be okay. I've got you. Because the other thing is the feeling that we have in our stomach, especially right now, can take us completely over. And we have to call in the other parts of ourselves because we are multifaceted. We're not all of the anxiety. We're not just anxiety. It's if that's what a lot of us are feeling right now, which we are right Not. I'm an anxious person. It's. I feel anxious right now and I need to meditate. That's why going quiet is so important, so that we can call in the strength of who we are, the compassionate part of ourselves, the loving, centered self that never goes away. And raise the volume on that with gesture. And it's almost like creating. If you remember at your retreat, we don't just create one gesture, we create two or three. So we're really allowing these different parts of ourselves to talk to each other.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: So good. So good. So good. You know, as I. Everything we talk about, whether it's directionally or your 3Es, I think that it hits on a 3Es. The Embody Empower and elevate aspects of it. So even when we're talking about the north or the south, and when I think about the east, about, you know, that's where the sun rises in, this tingling and this restlessness that we feel could actually also be. When we look at the positive of it, it could actually be, you know, asking Yourself. What's my body telling me about these new endless possibilities that are right up ahead?
[00:18:12] Speaker B: Right?
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Those things like you said, those small, intentional movements. Dancing and moving and gesturing. And you talked about running and getting all of this stuff outside of you. And I'm wondering, you know, as people are listening in and they're listening back to the replay or they're watching us on YouTube, think about that tingling. And what is the positive that can come out of this? Where. Where is now? This is here, unfortunately, or fortunately, it is here. So what is the possibility of me up ahead and how can I move into that thing?
[00:18:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. I love this. North, south, east, west. I think we're. We're speaking the same exact language in other directions, which is so beautifully aligned. I love it. And what I'm hearing, what you're saying, is really about not forgetting that we have that tingle is like, I'm still here too. I might be quiet right now because the north or the south, I should say, in the way you look at, right, is. Is. Is very afraid and nervous. But this tingle over here is saying, I'm still alive, and I need to get louder to help you feel safe. And so what I would do, right, if I were working with someone that were that. Like you described, they're kind of living in that place. But that little tingle, to me, that tingle is a voice. I would bring the attention, really, to that voice a lot. Like, who is that? How has this part of you shown up, that tingle, that bright light, what's ahead, that possibility?
Where has that part of you shown up in your life before? And calling attention to an experience that would bring up that optimism, that possible, that bright light, that energy, it. To me, it's all about energy and emotion and sensation. So once we activate that tingle and make it even a little bit bigger, we embody it, even if it would like, I see it with the hands, you know, and getting bigger and bigger, and so that it can take up more space in our body and we can remember that we have that part, too.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Mm. Oh, my gosh. This is so super good. It brings, you know, this calming piece to you. And I remember. I don't know if you met her during my retreat, but I have a friend, Lashon. I have to tell her that I mentioned her here, and she's a yoga instructor, and she is the one who. I believe it was her. I feel like it was her who introduced me to the box breathing. And with that, there is this. And that's when I think of the west, Right? That's the last direction. That's when I think of the west and I think of, you know, that's where the sun sets. That's when the release can happen. That's when letting go can happen. That's when you know, you can ask yourself these questions like, what do I need to release? And then, you know, you feel when you do that breathing, even as you've discussed, when you do that censoring, when you give yourself that permission to sit there, the tension in your shoulders relaxes a little bit. The clenching in your jaw that you didn't even know you were doing, it loosens up the holding your breath and you didn't even recognize that that's what was happening. So, you know, practicing gestures of release, going outside, like exhaling fully in that box and really shaking your arms, as you said, and moving really gives you that peace of mind to recognize that I am. You know, I was working with a client the other day and I always talk about this, is that when the winds are coming at you, when all of this stuff, this chaos is coming at you, like, seat yourself right there in the middle and be still. Seat yourself right there in the middle and be still. Just as you said in the beginning. Like you talked about embodying power and elevate. And I love that you only can elevate if you do the other two E's.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: So talk to me a little bit about. And before we get ourselves to give people like these lasting notions that we want to leave them with today, talk to us about those three E's and what can they expect out of. I know your book is about to come out and getting everybody tapped into this space of chaos, but being the calm in the midst of.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the first thing that I'm. That I'm feeling that I want to say is that this three phase approach or framework gives people something to really look at in a tangible way. Because in my opinion, from my own lived experience of being disembodied and then re embodied and then empowered and elevated is that this is really truly the human experience. We all cycle through these phases throughout our entire life. So number one, to know that this is human, this is natural, and if you're out of alignment, if you're feeling so overwhelmed and stressed, know that there is a framework, even if you just have it in your mind, you never buy my book or we never speak. But to know that you can follow this path, there is a path, there is support, there is a way to realign and reconnect and Feel that elevation for sure. So there's hope there. You know, like, I want. That's part of why I created these three E's, because I want people to feel hopeful. Okay. I'm out of alignment right now. I'm feeling. But I know I can get to this place, and here's how. So I wanted to say that.
And then your question specifically. Can you just repeat the question again? Oh, yeah.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: I have no clue what I asked.
I mean, I was in the moment. But what I did want you to leave us with is in the midst of you being in a chaotic space.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: How do you find your stillness?
[00:23:59] Speaker B: That is a great question. That's a great question. So personally, I wake up in the morning and I spend just a few minutes being in that quiet. Now, not everybody feels like this is a habit, right. It's like people are always like, I don't know. And it feels like a choreography. If you want to get aligned and feel empowered and live that elevation in that phase, in that state, we have to do the work. We have to put it into our lives. So I would say at first, this kind of thing might feel like work, but really in the end, it becomes a habit, and then it changes your life. So you can schedule it into your calendar. I literally did that for like a year because I wasn't doing what I needed to do. So I would say during the day, if you can carve out just a few minutes, it can be five minutes. It feels really good and nourishing to just sit in that quiet and body set. Put that hand on your heart and belly and close your eyes and just listen and go from there. Go from that place. The other thing that I would really say is, you know, when we really pay attention to our body, it really speaks, speaks. It is speaking to us all day long. And it's about fine tuning that. Listening. So here's what I would say. If you're at work, if you're in a conversation, if you whatever the sit, if you're watching the news and your body, you're feeling any kind of angst or like just a disruption, an irritation, being sidetracked, distracted. Get up, get up, get up. Just get up and like move your body around, take a walk or do the power of gesture. Even though many of many people listening might not know how to do it, just imagine, like, use your hands to embody whatever the emotion is. So in other words, start paying attention. Start notice noticing. Notice how you feel and don't ignore it. Like, really lean in. It doesn't have to be scary. Scary. It can just be. You just want to release the energy. Releasing the energy in whatever way you can. Whatever feels good to you.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. That's such a great takeaway for us today, and especially now in the midst of, you know, life is so busy, and life is so flustering sometimes. And I know for me, I want to move, move, move, move. And it's tough for me to. To stand still. It's a practice. It's intentional. It's tough for me to sit in a space and literally just be still. My mind is racing on all the things I need to do. For those of you listening in that find yourself where I am. There is power in literally just breathing. And I love that Jen is leaving us with Schedule it in.
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[00:26:56] Speaker B: Exactly. And the other thing I just want to say is there's no shame in anywhere that you are at. Right. I find a lot of people say, I can't believe. I can't do that. I can't meditate. I can't pay attention. I can't. You know, it's like, it doesn't matter if you're. It's very simple. If you are feeling a disruption in your body in any way and you notice it, just get up, just move your body. And then what happens is you can sit and relax, and then you can start to really listen. Don't you find that, too? Right? Like you were saying, it's hard for you to sit in that silence. And a lot of us find that. Right? There's a lot of people. So it's like, okay, do the opposite. Stand up. Like, just do, like, you know, run in place, and then sit down. And then you'd be surprised at how that opens you up to be able to be quiet and listen, because just going right into quiet a lot of times just doesn't work. So get up and do the complete opposite and then sit down.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: Oh, I love that. I love that. I love that. Well, listen, I am so excited that you were able to come. I do want to leave folks with I love leaving an acronym. So the acronym I'm leaving today based on what we talked about is navigate. Okay, Navigate. And I want to leave you all with that because we've really talked about how you navigate back to being centered, as Jen said, how you navigate back to your North Star, how you navigate back to embody, empower, and elevate. Right? So I want you all to tap into Jen. We'll get her contact information immediately. After this acronym. But when we think about the end, it's about notice. It's about pausing and observing how your body feels. That's exactly what Jen was talking about today. Then there's this alignment of using your breath and embodying who it is you are. This movement and this mindfulness to simply reset on. On everything that's going on. Press the reset button. It's okay. Giving voice to speak. What you need, whether it's through words, is through movement is through.
As Jen said. Maybe you just shaking it out. Okay, Using your hands to really give voice to that. Then there is intuition, like trusting your gut, that tingly feeling like trusting your gut because your body is telling you. You. Your body is simply telling you. This podcast episode today is how your body is speaking and realigning to you. That's what it's about. The G is about grounding, like staying rooted in the present, because what we anticipate might happen in the future might not. So don't allow yourself to be sidetracked by chaos and distractions. The A is about adaptability, like being willing to pivot. Being willing to pivot. Because in the midst of chaos comes choice. Comes your north, south, east, or west. Like, where are you going to go? Or are you going to stay complacent in where it is you are? We need to shift, the winds are moving. And T is about giving thanks. Like, show your gratitude to your body's wisdom. Because when we listen to that wisdom that our body is giving us, then we. We too shall move. I truly believe that God's got it all together, right? If we trust, if we believe, if we know, then, then we can give thanks for where it is we are in this moment. But our body honestly is telling us exactly what to do. And then the E, of course, is. Is Jen's 3Es. It is the embody, empower and elevate. And in order to get to that elevate, you gotta move forward with clarity, confidence, and commitment. You gotta move forward through these three E's. Whether it was my divorce I went through or my son being born prematurely or my dad passing away, all of that happening at one time or, or executive orders that's coming and people just be. Are. Are nervous or being, you know, being diagnosed with something that is terminal, and you just don't know what to do. Be still. Be still and allow your body to tell you exactly what you need to do. So, Jen, thank you.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: You're so beautiful, the way you speak. I could just sit here and listen to you all day long.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. But it's because of amazing power women and power people that are listening in and doing the thing. Because when you surround yourself with like, people, when you surround yourself with people who are like, hey, pause. Hey, be still.
Sometimes even. I was on a. I was looking at an Instagram live the other day and AOC was talking congresswoman, and she was saying, you know, you just gotta breathe. I know you all want the answer right now, like right now, right now. But you gonna sit here and you're gonna lock in to what I'm saying because it's gonna be a moment. I gotta take you through steps so that you understand. So breathe. And I, in that moment, listening to her, it was so uncomfortable because you do want the end, but you forget that there's steps to this thing. And as I just sat there and did this, literally, I could feel all the tension in my body. And so I say this to say to everybody. We all going through stuff, we're all feeling stuff, but just know that your body really is telling you the things. And that's why Jen is here. And I thought it was so important to bring her on because she touches the soul and helps us to recognize what our body is saying.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: So beautiful. I'm so happy and so excited to have my book. My book is coming out this year and it is. The title is your body is speaking and it is time to listen as well. Because it is time. It is time. And I'll leave us. I want to just mention one quick thing about. I've often thought about our ancestors and how they moved through life. And it was all about instinct. It was all about. All about surf. You know, the instinct is what allowed them to survive and thrive. It was all about the body telling them how to move forward, what next step they needed to take. We have gotten so distracted by the outside noise. It is time to come home to our bodies. It is so essential for us to come home to our bodies and to find that instinct because it's there. It's a natural intelligence that we were all born with and we need to realign and reconnect to it now more than ever.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: I love it. How can people get in touch with you, Jen?
[00:33:23] Speaker B: So my website is my name www.genax.comaks is how you spell my last name. Also Instagram at Jen underscore acts. Those are the two places. You can email me jen gen x.com but really those are the. Those are the places. I'm on Facebook and LinkedIn, but that's where I'm really active. Mostly on Instagram. So reach out anytime. Anytime.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: I love it. And then how can is there are there pre orders for your books or how do they stay connected? Through your socials?
[00:33:56] Speaker B: Through my socials, I don't have any pre orders yet. I will. So reach out to me and say I'm interested. Send me an email, DM me, whatever and I will put you on the list for sure.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: I love it. Well, thank you so much. And to everyone listening in, thank you for joining Coaching Cocktails and Conversations with Lolita E. Walker. We have concluded yet another episode of Coaching, Cocktails and Conversations, the podcast with Lolita E. Walker. Don't forget to connect with
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